Sunday, July 7, 2013

I am not this dream (Srila Prabhupada)

Lecture in Hyderabad, november 11, 1972 
(slightly edited) 

Srila Prabhupada putting on tilaka

Bhagavad-gita 2.15

yam hi na vyathayanty 
purusam purusarsabha
sama-duhkha-sukham dhiram
so 'mrtatvaya kalpate

yam — one to whom; hi — certainly; na — never; vyathayanti — are distressing; ete — all these; purusam — to a person; purusa-rsabha — O best among men; sama — unaltered; duhkha — in distress; sukham — and happiness; dhīram — patient; sah — he; amrtatvāya — for liberation; kalpate — is considered eligible.

O best among men, the person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is certainly eligible for liberation.

Srila Prabhupada: 

sa amrtatvaya kalpate

Amrtatva. Here, in this material world, we are put into mrtatva, subject to birth, death, old age and disease. But there is another position where there is no birth, death, old age and disease. So which position we should like — birth, death, old age and disease, or no birth, no death, no old age, no disease? Which one we should like? Hmm? I think we should like no birth, no death, no old age, no disease. So that is called amrtatva. So, 

amrtatvaya kalpate

Every living being is amrta. That will be explained. Amrta... As we are, in our own original, constitutional position, we are not subjected to birth, death, old age and disease. Just like Krsna is sac-cid-ananda-vigraha, eternal, blissful, knowledgeable, similarly, we, being part and parcel of Krsna, we are also of the same quality. We have accepted this position of birth, death, old age and disease on account of our association with this material world. Now, everyone is trying not to die, everyone is trying not to become old, everyone is trying not to be dead, meet death. This is natural. Because, by nature, we are not subjected to these things, therefore our endeavor, our activity, is struggling, how to become deathless, birthless, diseaseless. That is struggle for existence.

So here, the Bhagavad-gita gives you a nice formula: 

yam hi na vyathayanty ete 
purusam purusarsabha

This transmigration of the soul, one which is not afflicted by this, 

dhiras tatra na muhyati [Bg. 2.13],

he is not disturbed. 

Suppose my father dies, if I have got clear understanding that "My father has not died. He has changed the body. He has accepted another body." That is the fact. Just like in our sleeping state, dreaming state, my body is lying on the bed, but in dream I create another body and go, say, a thousand miles away in a different place. As you have got daily experience, similarly, the gross body being stopped, I, as spirit soul, I do not stop. I work. My mind carries me. My mind is active, my intelligence is active. People do not know that there is another subtle body made of mind, intelligence and ego. That carries me to another gross body. That is called transmigration of the soul.

Therefore one who knows that the spirit soul is eternal, deathless, birthless, ever-new: 

nityah sasvato 'yam puranah [Bg. 2.20]

Nityah sasvatah ayam puranah. Purana means very old. We do not know how old we are because we are transmigrating from one body to another. We do not know when we have begun this. Therefore, actually we are very old, but, at the same time, nityah sasvato 'yam puranah. Although very old,... Just like Krsna is adi-purusa, the original person. Still, you'll find Krsna always a young man of sixteen to twenty years' age. You'll never find Krsna's picture as old. Nava-yauvana. Krsna is always nava-yauvana

advaitam acyutam anadim ananta-rupam 

adyam purana-purusam nava-yauvanam 
[Brahma-samhita 5.33]

Adyam, the original person, and the oldest; at the same time, He is always in youthful life. 

adyam purana-purusam nava-yauvanam

So anyone who knows that how the soul is transmigrating from one body to another, 

dhiras tatra na muhyati [Bg. 2.13],

those who are sober, learned, he is not disturbed.

The purpose of Krsna is to teach all these things to Arjuna. Because he was very much perplexed how he would live, killing all his kinsmen, brothers. So Krsna wanted to point out that "Your brothers, your grandfather, they'll not die. They'll simply transfer the body. 

vasamsi jirnani yatha vihaya [Bg. 2.22]

As we change our dress, similarly we change our bodies also like that. There is nothing to be lamented." In another place in Bhagavad-gita therefore, it is said, 


"One who has understood Brahman", 


"he's always joyful. He's not disturbed by these material conditions." [Bg. 18.54] That is here stated: 

yam hi na vyathayanty ete 

These different transformation, different changes of nature, body, and everything, one should not be disturbed by all these things. These are external. We are spirit soul. It is external body, or external dress. That is changing. So if we understand nicely, 

na vyathayanti

and you are not disturbed by these changes, then: 

sah amrtatvaya kalpate

then he's making progress, spiritual progress. That means, spiritual progress means, he's making progress towards eternal life. Spiritual life means eternal, blissful life of knowledge. That is spiritual life.

So here is the recommendation. Try to become Krsna conscious. And then you'll not be disturbed with all these external, ephemeral changes of the material world. Not only of this body. Practically, one who is advanced in spiritual life, he's not agitated by the so-called political upheavals or social disturbances. No. He knows these are simply external, ephemeral. Just like in the dream. It is also a dream. Our present existence, it is also dream, Exactly like we dream at night. In dreaming, we create so many things. So this material world is also dreaming. Gross dreaming. That is subtle dreaming. And this is gross dreaming. That is the action of the mind, body, intelligence  dreaming. And here, the action of five material elements: earth, water, air, fire... But all of them, these eight, they are simply material. So we are thinking that "I have now built a very nice house, skyscraper building." It is nothing but dream. Nothing but dream. Dream in this sense, that as soon as I give up this body, all my skyscraper building, business, factory  finished. Exactly the same: dream. Dream is for a few minutes, or few hours. And this is for few years. That's all. It is dream.

So one should not be disturbed by this dreaming condition. That is spiritual life. One should not be disturbed. Just like we are not disturbed. Suppose, in dream, I was put on the throne, and I was working like a king  after the dream is over, I am not sorry. Similarly, in dream I was seeing that tiger has attacked me. I was actually crying "Here is tiger! Here is tiger! Save me!" And the person who is lying behind me or beside me, he says, "Oh, why you are crying? Where is tiger?" So when he's awakened, he sees there is no tiger. So everything is like that. But this dream, these gross and subtle dreams, are simply reflections. Just like what is dream? The whole day, what I think, the dreaming is a reflection. Reflection. My father was doing cloth business. So sometimes in dreaming he was quoting price: "This is the price". So similarly it is all dreaming. This material existence, made of these five gross elements and three subtle elements, it's exactly like dream. 

smara nityam aniyatam

Therefore Canakya Pandita says, smara nityam aniyatam.

This anitya, temporary... Dreaming is always temporary. 

So we must know that whatever we possess, whatever we are seeing, these are all dream, temporary. Therefore if we become engrossed with the temporary things, so-called socialism, nationalism, family-ism or this-ism, that-ism, and waste our time, without cultivating Krsna consciousness, then that is called 

srama eva hi kevalam [Srimad Bhagavatam 1.2.8]

Simply wasting our time. Creating another body. Our own business is that we should know that "I am not this dream. I am fact, spiritual fact. So I have got a different business." That is called spiritual life. That is spiritual life, when we understand that "I am Brahman. I am not this matter."

brahma-bhutah prasannatma [Bg. 18.54]

That time we shall be joyful. Because we are afflicted with so many changes of the material features, and we are sorry and happy, being afflicted by all these external activities, but when we understand rightly that "I am not concerned with all these things," then we become joyful. "Oh, I have no responsibility. Nothing, I have nothing to do with all these things." 

brahma-bhutah prasannatma 
na socati na kanksati 

At that time, you can feel that every living entity is exactly like you. It doesn't matter whether he is a learned brahmana, whether he's a dog, whether he is a candala, whether he's an elephant.

brahmane gavi hastini
suni caiva sva-pake ca
panditah sama-darsinah
[Bg. 5.18]

That is required. That is spiritual vision. 

panditah sama-darsinah

Therefore a devotee is first-class pundit. A devotee. Because he's sama-darsinah. Sama-darsinah means he's feeling for others. A Vaisnava is described as,

krpambudhir yah

Vaisnava is very kind-hearted, merciful, because he feels for others. He feels for others in this sense that he knows what he is. He sees every living entity as part and parcel of God: "Now, here is a part and parcel of God. He would have gone back to home, back to Godhead, and danced with Him, and lived very nicely, eternally, blissfully. Now he's rotting here as a hog, or as a human being, or as a king. The same thing. It is for few years only." So a devotee therefore tries to take him out of this illusion. Therefore, he's called para-duhkha-duhkhi. He's actually feeling others' distressed condition. Not these political leaders or social... What they can do? They make their own fortune. That's all. Or what is that fortune? That is also misfortune. If somebody thinks "I have got some money. I am very fortunate." Actually it is not fortune. Real fortunate is he who is advanced in Krsna consciousness. He is fortunate. Otherwise, all are unfortunate. All are unfortunate.

So in this way, one should come to the spiritual understanding, and the symptom is he's not disturbed by the material upheavals. 

yam hi na vyathayanty ete 
purusam purusarsabha

The symptom is sama-duhkha. Because he knows this is dreaming. 

Suppose you are dreaming. So either you suffer in the presence of a tiger, or you become a king in dream, what is the value? It is the same thing. There is no difference. After all, it is dreaming. Therefore: 


If I become very happy because I have become a king or some big man, that is also dream. And if I think that "I am so poor, Oh, I am suffering, I am diseased," that is also the same thing. Therefore Krsna has in the previous verses said: tams titiksasva bharata [Bg. 2.14]"Just a little practice to tolerate. Do your own business, Krsna consciousness." 

yudhyasva mam anusmara [Bg. 8.7]

Our real business is, as Krsna says:

man-mana bhava mad-bhakto 

mad-yaji mam namaskuru 
[Bg. 18.65]. 

"Always think of Me." So this practice should go on. Never mind I am so-called distressed or happy. 

Here... In the Caitanya-caritamrta it is said, 

‘dvaite' bhadrabhadra-jnana saba ‘manodharma'

‘ei bhala ei manda' ei saba ‘bhrama'
[Cc. Antya 4.176]

Dvaite, in this dual, the world of duality, here, in this material world, the, "This thing is very good, this thing is very bad", it is simply mental concoction. Everything here is bad. Nothing good. So this is our mental creation only. "This is good, this is bad." We are doing that. Just like in political field. "This party is nice. This party is bad." But any party goes in the power, your condition is the same. The commodities price are increasing. It has no decreasing, either you change this party or that party. So these are all concoctions. If you want really happy, happiness, if you want real goodness, then you try to become Krsna conscious. That will make you real happy. Otherwise, if you are simply disturbed by this material condition, that is not a very good position.

nasato vidyate bhavo
nabhavo vidyate satah
ubhayor api drsto 'ntas
tv anayos tattva-darsibhih
[Bg. 2.16]

Tattva-darsibhih. Those who have seen the Absolute Truth, or those who have realized the Absolute Truth, they have concluded that matter has no permanent existence and spirit soul has no annihilation. These two things would be understood. 


Asatah means material. 

nasato vidyate bhavah

Asatah, anything asat... Anything in the material world, that is asat. Asat means will not exist, temporary. So you cannot expect permanent happiness in temporary world. That is not possible. But they are trying to become happy. So many plan-making commissions, utopian. But actually there is no happiness. So many commissions. But there are those,


They know. Tattva-darsi, one has seen or has realized the Absolute Truth, he knows that in the material world there cannot be any happiness. This conclusion should be made. This is simply phantasmagoria.

So you cannot become happy. These boys and these girls, American, European, they have tasted all this civilization. They have tasted very nicely. Motorcar, nightclub and drinking, they have tasted very nicely. There is no happiness. Therefore they have come to Krsna consciousness. Therefore, 

nasato vidyate bhavo nabhavo vidyate satah

Abhavah, and the satah. So we are unhappy on account of our accepting asat, which will not exist. That is the description given by Prahlada Maharaja: 

sada samudvigna-dhiyam asad-grahat

Sada samudvigna-dhiyamWe are always anxious, full of anxieties. That's a fact. Everyone of us, full of anxieties. Why? 


Because we have accepted this material body. Asad-grahat

tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam 
sada samudvigna-dhiyam 
[SB. 7.5.5]

DehinamDehi means the proprietor of the body. So everyone is dehi, either animal or human being or tree or anyone. Every living entity has accepted a material body. Therefore they are called dehi. So dehinam, every dehi, because he has accepted this material body, he's always full of anxiety.

So we cannot be anxiety-free unless we come to Krsna consciousness. That is not possible. You have to become Krsna conscious.

brahma-bhutah prasannatma 

[Bg. 18.54]

Immediately you become anxiety-free. If you don't come to the platform of Krsna consciousness, you'll always be full of anxieties. 

sada samudvigna-dhiyam asad-grahat
hitvatma-patam grham andha-kupam 
vanam gato yad dharim asrayeta 
[SB 7.5.5]

That is the Prahlada Maharaja giving us direction that if you want to get relief from this status of anxiety, 

sada samudvigna-dhiyam

Then, hitvatma-patam:

hitvatma-patam grham andha-kupam

Grham andha-kupam. Grha means... There are so many meanings. Especially it is meant: home. Home. Homesick. Our Vedic civilization is that drive away from home. Go away from home. To take sannyasa, to take vanaprastha. Not to remain up to the last point of death as family member, grandfather or great-grandfather. That is not our Vedic civilization. As soon as one is little grown up, pancasordhvam vanam vrajet, he must get out from this grham andha-kupam

grham andha-kupam

If we discuss threadbare, it may be very unpalatable. But we have to discuss from sastra what is grha. Grha, it is... Another word, it is called anganasrayam. Angana. Angana means woman. To live under the protection of wife. Anganasraya. So sastra recommends that you give up this anganasrayam to go to the paramahamsa-asrayam. Then your life will be saved. Otherwise, as Prahlada Maharaja says, 

grham andha-kupam

"If you keep yourself always in this dark well of so-called family life, then you'll never be happy."


Atma-patam means you'll never be able to understand spiritual life. Of course, not always, but generally. Generally, who are too much attached to family life or extended family life, extended — family life, then society life, then community life, then national life, then international life  they're all grham andha-kupam. All grham andha-kupam

So the Prahlada Maharaja advising that "You give up all this nonsense conceptions",

Vanam gato yad dharim asrayeta [SB 7.5.5]

Just vanam gatah, means just become free from this conception, this grham andha-kupam-conception of life. Take the broader life of Krsna consciousness. Then you'll be happy. 

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